Posts by Open mind

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"Only if you get a court order." wink, wink

by rebel8 in

recently had a discussion with a surgeon who said jw parents "usually" (her word, not mine) privately say they will take blood if the provider gets a court order.. yet another person, with no connection to dubs and no motive to make this up, saying this same thing.

interesting.. i'm surprised the thought police have not come out with an article saying jehoopla reads the hearts and judges as bloodguilty those who are relieved when forced to take blood..

Open mind

Uh, rebel8, I think we're probably talking right past each other here.

This quote from the link you posted confirms my earlier assertion:

"Generally, it is only when the child’s life is at risk that the weighing of interests favors the child and the government authority that is asserting the child’s rights."

Bottom line, if to a "reasonable degree of medical certainty" the kid's going to die without a blood transfusion, the whining JW parents can go pound sand while the ER docs give them blood to save their life. That's the reality in urban, Western, ERs that have access to judges willing to sign off 24/7 to save a kid's life.

If the kid's gonna die, the cult can suck it and the kid's gonna live.

Am I missing something here?

om

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Governing Bodies Secret Elder's training video on suicide leaked

by Watchtower-Free in

watchtower minions have pulled down jwsurveys links .

here's another one .. the gb should be held liable for this crap.

http://www.mediafire.com/watch/cvas6fcrc9zca94/shepherding_instructional_suicidal_widow.avi.

Open mind

marked

Thanks Watchtower-Free !!

om

103

That does it ! I'm leaving ! ! !

by Billy the Ex-Bethelite in

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friends

leaving the university with my degree!.

exams are finished and it's just a matter of days before i walk.. i was certainly stressed about doing this.

i'm older than my classmates and armageddon was sooooo close!

Open mind

Well done Billy. On all levels!

43

"Only if you get a court order." wink, wink

by rebel8 in

recently had a discussion with a surgeon who said jw parents "usually" (her word, not mine) privately say they will take blood if the provider gets a court order.. yet another person, with no connection to dubs and no motive to make this up, saying this same thing.

interesting.. i'm surprised the thought police have not come out with an article saying jehoopla reads the hearts and judges as bloodguilty those who are relieved when forced to take blood..

Open mind

Ahhh.... Got it.

Thanks rebel8.

I would imagine we're talking about situations where the child needs blood soon, but not necessarily immediately. My understanding is that, at least in most of the U.S., if a child needs an emergency transfusion due to being in an automible accident, they get it. Now. The squawking of their cult-member parents is just an annoying bit of background noise in the ER.

om

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"Only if you get a court order." wink, wink

by rebel8 in

recently had a discussion with a surgeon who said jw parents "usually" (her word, not mine) privately say they will take blood if the provider gets a court order.. yet another person, with no connection to dubs and no motive to make this up, saying this same thing.

interesting.. i'm surprised the thought police have not come out with an article saying jehoopla reads the hearts and judges as bloodguilty those who are relieved when forced to take blood..

Open mind

rebel8: "Recently had a discussion with a surgeon who said jw parents "usually" (her word, not mine) privately say they will take blood if the provider gets a court order."

I think I must be missing something here. I've been told by several people (some JWs, some not) who work in and around Emergency medicine that many ERs have access to judges, 24/7, who are willing to issue court orders so that JW kids receive life-saving blood transfusions.

Once a court order is issued, it doesn't matter whether the JW parents are willing to "take" blood or not, the kid's going to get it. In fact, if the JW parents continue to raise a big stink once the court order has been issued, they look extra righteous to whatever HLC vultures happen to be lurking.

Could you please clarify what exactly the JW parents in this kind of situation are agreeing to?

om

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San Fran apostabeerfest NOW

by besty in

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who's in?

i'm staying near chinatown until friday.. .

Open mind

I'll be sending you a PM warning against the dangers of immoderate use of alcohol.

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JW Witnessing Trolleys. To approach or ignore what is your preference and why?

by KateWild in

i saw two brothers this morning next to the main train station in liverpool city centre this morning.

they were not actively approaching anyone.

what i found strange was that they were from a cong that has different territory, so i don't know why they were there.. anyway i knew them both, and they know i was df'd, i was in my car and couldn't park up for a chat, but i did beep and wave to them as i drove passed and they waved back.